Very Smart Move from Quasar

**gamecat** · 4 September 2018, 9:22 am

Players from restricted countries cannot play anymore? Who does really believe that? At the moment Quasar does a pretty awful job to deleting my earning stats in their affiliate program. So yesterday my players, which should be around 99% Germans, paid in around 1,5k but my earnings are zero, right? And the two days before, where I also had pay ins, the statistic now shows zero. Looks like they did not find a way to put it all at zero automatically, for me they delete it daily by hand. Same goes for OVO, my account shows around 300 Euro net revenue for yesterday... guess tomorrow its zero again.

Yeah, of course, they are not allowed to play

**Insider** · 5 September 2018, 4:54 am

Originally Posted by Anthony

This is not endless. Bottom line, affiliates have stop earning commissions from excluded markets 1 September and Quasar said players would also stop playing. A player reported they still could play, we notified the program of it. If the affiliates don't get commission from that play the program will be suspended according with our contract agreement.

Sorry Anthony but Quasar are liars and it's a joke. The same procedure on us like camecat mentioned.

Here are some screenshots from Quasar Stats, OVO Stats and Quasar Chat today:

All are german players!

On chat from today i asked whether it's allowed to play from germany (Chat is in german)

Support agent confirms that it's allowed to play except states Bayern and Baden Württemberg (Niedersachsen is missing)

They offer further it's service for germany but they stopped service for this three states because of a management decision. And one can play further from Nordrhein-Westfalen.

Restricted territories was updated on 3rd of August 2018 (including germany). On the translated german version, germany is not listed (updated on 27th July 201

The question arises, what they exactly mean with restricted territories? The entire country or only individual states and you will continue earn on the players from the remaining states ?

If they only mean the individual states, then it's not correct written down. Then it must be restricted countries.

If they mean the entire country, then it's clear and one must shoot them to the moon.

**Ocelot2** · 5 September 2018, 5:20 am

What kind of discussion is actually taking place here? These assholes simply cheat all affiliates by not paying any more players and putting all the money in their own pockets. Now the criminals come along, tell some fairy tales like for example that German players can't play anymore, which is a plain lie and you take it from these assholes? These criminals should not be shown here as silver members but on a blacklist, moreover explicit warnings should be pronounced especially with regard to the Scandinavian Affiliates because at some point they are also affected. The Quasar Limit is a hypocritical, lying fraud company nothing else. There is absolutely nothing more to discuss!

**Insider** · 5 September 2018, 5:50 am

I am with you and we have also warned immediately about and set them to the not recommended list.

But we must write about, so that it will also arrives to the last customer and showing in Google. I know that it will change nothing for us but the players must understand and don't deposit anymore.

**Roulette Zeitung** · 5 September 2018, 5:54 am

Originally Posted by Insider

On chat from today i asked whether it's allowed to play from germany (Chat is in german)

Support agent confirms that it's allowed to play except states Bayern and Baden Württemberg (Niedersachsen is missing)

The chat operator lied to you, when he claims, that the casino is open for players in Germany with 16 federal states, with the exception of Bavaria and Baden-Wuerttemberg only, because new players from Lower Saxony, Germany's federal state, where almost 10% of the whole population resides, are still prohibited from register a new player account at Quasar Casino and also at OVO Casino, a ban which is based on the same mystery phrase like in the live chat, the so called "management decision".

The screen shots you made finally are the verified evidence, that their story is a huge load of skunk ***.

Leopold

**gamecat** · 6 September 2018, 2:55 am

Will also post some screenshots when I have my money for August. So really looks like they just delete the days out of the statistics. All of my other Marketing sources I cannot see anything, but for my first one ever created they might have to delete it daily by hand, guess Netrefer does not give them another better scamming option.

For example on 03 of September where I had (German) players pay in and playing, they are just deleted out of the statistic now.

**Triple7** · 6 September 2018, 3:28 am

But who's the real owner of Quasar? And Stargames and OVO?

**ocreditor** · 6 September 2018, 3:40 am

Originally Posted by Triple7

But who's the real owner of Quasar? And Stargames and OVO?

Quasar Limited is the owner of both Quasar and OVO.

Stargames was shutdown earlier this year

**Triple7** · 6 September 2018, 4:02 am

Originally Posted by ocreditor

Quasar Limited is the owner of both Quasar and OVO.

Stargames was shutdown earlier this year

Yes, there was also overlap in affiliate management, like before with Stargames.

Somehow I think it's all the same, Stargames and OVO/Quasar.

**Insider** · 6 September 2018, 5:53 am

Originally Posted by Triple7

Yes, there was also overlap in affiliate management, like before with Stargames.

Somehow I think it's all the same, Stargames and OVO/Quasar.

How i already mentioned at OVO Thread (Any comments or clarification from the rep?!") - I don't believe that.

Maybe there are some small points where you can assume. But i also don't know it better, it can be or not.

I had a look today and i can confirm that they delete earnings manually, how Gamecat mentioned.

So it's no surprise that they have done it all the months before and were able to manipulate stats.

**FictionNet** · 6 September 2018, 7:56 am

Originally Posted by Insider

I had a look today and i can confirm that they delete earnings manually, how Gamecat mentioned. So it's no surprise that they have done it all the months before and were able to manipulate stats.

I'm sorry for those who have been affected. Thankfully I never dealt with this company.

I was going to ask what software they use that allows manipulation, but from the screenshots it looks to be the latest 'improved' (ahem) version of NetRefer? Or is it something different?

**affy** · 6 September 2018, 8:38 am

GPWA SPONSOR CODE OF CONDUCT

4. AFFILIATE COMPLAINTS
Sponsor will promptly respond to any complaint.....

**Anthony** · 6 September 2018, 1:50 pm

Accepting play while not paying the affiliates is a thief of commissions and a Quasar/OVO should be removed from GPWA for that action. In order to do that, I am contractually obligated to contact them regarding the issue prior to their termination and attempt to get them to do the right thing for affiliates.

Quasar/OVO replied to one of my messages stating, “… we fully understand the concerns and the allegations held against the company (and) in order to avoid any misunderstandings, restricted territories do not solely refer to the country, but also to states within the territory itself. Indeed, as already highlighted above Quasar Limited already does not allow players to play on its brands from Bavaria, Baden Wuttenberg and Lower Saxony.”

They admitted that players from certain German states are still able to play. If the players are still allowed to play, then commission must be paid to affiliates. I am waiting a reply to see if Quasar/OVO will agree to fulfill their obligation to affiliates by paying the commissions earned. This will be sorted one way or another by the end of the week.

**affy** · 6 September 2018, 4:20 pm

Originally Posted by Anthony

Accepting play while not paying the affiliates is a thief of commissions and a Quasar/OVO should be removed from GPWA for that action. In order to do that, I am contractually obligated to contact them regarding the issue prior to their termination and attempt to get them to do the right thing for affiliates.

Quasar/OVO replied to one of my messages stating, “… we fully understand the concerns and the allegations held against the company (and) in order to avoid any misunderstandings, restricted territories do not solely refer to the country, but also to states within the territory itself. Indeed, as already highlighted above Quasar Limited already does not allow players to play on its brands from Bavaria, Baden Wuttenberg and Lower Saxony.?

They admitted that players from certain German states are still able to play. If the players are still allowed to play, then commission must be paid to affiliates. I am waiting a reply to see if Quasar/OVO will agree to fulfill their obligation to affiliates by paying the commissions earned. This will be sorted one way or another by the end of the week.

Forum > Silver Affiliate Program Sponsors > Quasar Affiliates > .... did I miss a post from any official QUASAR rep here?!

**gamecat** · 7 September 2018, 3:23 am

Don't forget that OVO Casino is the same company and the same scam as Quasar. So a lot of Affiliates (like me) get robbed two times.

**Anthony** · 7 September 2018, 1:13 pm

Since Quasar/OVO have not agreed to pay affiliates for players that continue to play, I have suspended their sponsorship at GPWA. If Quasar/OVO agree to fulfill their obligation to affiliates by paying the commissions owed, their sponsorship can be reinstated.

I will keep the forum open for a couple weeks while final payments for the excluded markets are being sorted out so affiliates can post regarding payments.

**Roulette Zeitung** · 8 September 2018, 8:25 am

"Since Quasar/OVO have not agreed to pay affiliates for players that continue to play, I have suspended their sponsorship at GPWA. If Quasar/OVO agree to fulfill their obligation to affiliates by paying the commissions owed, their sponsorship can be reinstated."

Smart people will see a clear difference to other cases, like e.g. Buffalo or Condor. No stalling tactics. No excuses. The maximum pressure, Anthony put on that program. They have a last little chance to avoid the continuation of the official justified public humiliation by GPWA due to the suspension.

The right thing to do, also to protect indirectly the business of the few good programs in this industry and the only chance to enforce some payments, to do something more good to the affiliates, regardless how bad the odds are. It's the intention that counts.

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

Patience is always a key and in some situations one has to play by the book. [...] I am pretty sure, [Anthony] will make a decision, based on all facts and so this thing comes to an end at some point, and from what I have read, this point will not take place only after the Klingons will invade Earth. No, this point obviously is not far away. [...] From what I have read now, I now believe that!

Originally Posted by affy

Great you have faith Leopold, I don't...

My faith hasn't disappointed me.

What do the audience here want more?
The electric chair?

Leopold

**Triple7** · 8 September 2018, 9:05 am

What do the audience here want more?
The electric chair?

Names of the real owners of this company. Without this kamikaze tactics are too easy. I remember that as a new brand suddenly they had quite some exposure at conferences, had exposure at top sites, etc. A few years later they're gone and perhaps they come back with a new brand, using the same tactics.

**Roulette Zeitung** · 8 September 2018, 12:10 pm

"Names of the real owners of this company."

Unfortunately, neither GPWA nor the CCM cannot provide such data to the public, because it would put them in legal jeopardy, and such data breach would be committing suicide on their own business model.

I can offer, that anyone who has knowledge, can provide that data to me on any communication channel. As in the past 40 years I never revealed any source of data and secrets about scammers, and I will make the owners names public in a way here, so that it cannot be censored by order.

The same I did with lunatic Happy Bet Thomas, who did not want the public to know his real identity and background.

There is always a legal way.

Leopold

**affy** · 9 September 2018, 4:11 am

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

"Since Quasar/OVO have not agreed to pay affiliates for players that continue to play, I have suspended their sponsorship at GPWA. If Quasar/OVO agree to fulfill their obligation to affiliates by paying the commissions owed, their sponsorship can be reinstated."

Smart people will see a clear difference to other cases, like e.g. Buffalo or Condor. No stalling tactics. No excuses. The maximum pressure, Anthony put on that program. They have a last little chance to avoid the continuation of the official justified public humiliation by GPWA due to the suspension.

IMHO Quasar just gave the GPWA the same as the affiliates... their middle finger...

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

The right thing to do, also to protect indirectly the business of the few good programs in this industry and the only chance to enforce some payments, to do something more good to the affiliates, regardless how bad the odds are. It's the intention that counts.

Affiliates pulled these crooks way before anybody at GPWA even reacted (please don't come up with the holiday yadi yadi...)

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

My faith hasn't disappointed me.

Leopold as much I appreciate your efforts to name and shame rogue outfits, bad management and/or people in our industry here, IMHO your loyalty towards Anthony is a bit naive...

Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung

What do the audience here want more?
The electric chair?

Leopold

Can't speak for others but I personally would have much more trust in an affiliates "organization/advocate/ombudsman" that doesn't have crooks "featured" and "listed as number one" on their "other business"....

Now Leopold before you start a whole rant with tons of graphics and text, save yourself time and please accept that sometimes people simply disagree with you. Happens to me too

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