Casino coins increases payment min from $200 - $500

**Puma** · 24 July 2009, 5:38 pm

I dont let casinos transfer money to my account. I get them to send a check or use moneybookers. Casino coins has decided to increase the minimum from $200 to $500 for wire transfers and removed check option completely. Thanks a bunch guy for making our lives a bit more difficult. You will be removed from my pages right away. Show some respect for smaller affiliates.

**universal4** · 24 July 2009, 8:37 pm

I agree....a $500 minimum is just not gonna fly in my book either....

Rick
Universal4

**matted** · 24 July 2009, 8:52 pm

Another example of how Casino Coins has retreated from their former position as a market leader.

**SabrinaCoins** · 27 July 2009, 2:20 pm

Chris,

Its unfortunate that you have such a distaste for Coins. I also wish you had kept your grievances to this page rather than spilling into my Millionaire post.

Call out your affiliate programs all you want as long as its done tastefully...

We were given instructions by our bank to make a few changes to our payments and not offering cheques was one of them. We understand this is an inconvenience, however, we do offer affiliate speed pay as a payment method. And have a referral code for affiliates to use to bypass set up fees (so its free!).

Minimum for ASP is $50 (minimum for cheques was $200, so I think that's even better for small affiliates! no?!)

You can check them out and see what you think. We've had zero to no problems using that method and think it was a great addition! It overcomes a lot of the issues that cheques and wires present.

Either ways, if you have any other questions or concerns.... I think you know what to do.

Cheers!

**universal4** · 27 July 2009, 6:18 pm

Actually that is a good compromise and I apologize if my post was taken wrong....(but I do plan on reducing exposure if not dropping any programs with high minimums or poor terms)

Actually if I had known that I would have changed my payment method...

Could you tell us what other methods of payments are offered and their minimums.

I can't speak for everyone, but I think Quicktender with a lower minimum like $50 would go a long way for the smaller affiliates. There are still a number of affiliates that are not comfortable using ASP, and I kinda remember there are small charges on the account if it becomes inactive....(sorry if I am remembering that wrong I am a little under the weather at the moment)

Rick
Universal4

**slotplayer** · 27 July 2009, 6:41 pm

QT is a single point of failure. It gets me nervous.

**Holland87** · 27 July 2009, 6:54 pm

I signed up for the ASP card and am very happy with it. I was even happier when I saw the minimum was dropped to $50.

And yes universal, there is a inactive fee in their list of fees. I don't know what it is off the top of my head. That would be the fee to hurt the small affiliates, like me. But with a minimum of $50, the account should stay actiive, I hope!

**mojo** · 27 July 2009, 8:12 pm

Originally Posted by SabrinaCoins

We understand this is an inconvenience, however, we do offer affiliate speed pay as a payment method.

I think that for some affiliates it may not be so much an inconvenience but rather it could be a real hardship for them.

I don't use Coins and it's not just this instance Sabrina. It's just something that all programs should be aware of when making changes like this.

Not everyone will use asp so adding QT would be a benefit.

**Holland87** · 27 July 2009, 8:29 pm

But with QT, you need a minimum of $100 to withdraw to your bank account and a $30 fee on top of that. So, in my case for July, my $60 from CC would have had to sit there until I had at least $130 in my QT account.

With ASP, I was able to withdraw my whopping $60 from an ATM minus the regular bank's ATM fee and ASP's ATM fee, which did not equal $30.

I'm not saying that QT, as a payment option, is not a good option but with a low minimum payout and withdrawal fee, ASP is the way to go for me.

I wish more programs had the ASP as an option.

**universal4** · 27 July 2009, 8:37 pm

Granted the fees are a bit higher with QT, but giving the affiliates the choice to use that is a big plus I'd say.

The fact that QT is much more widely accepted as a payment method at many more properties makes it the more convenient choice for some affiliates.

Rick
Universal4

**SabrinaCoins** · 27 July 2009, 8:43 pm

Holland87, I'm happy to hear that u enjoy ASP!
This is not a plug, more so an FYI: ASP's fee structure.

Some affiliates have questioned using ASP (for various reasons) but it's really a great solution especially to checks and wires. Worked well for us so far - less issues with delayed checks and international wires not going through properly.

Universal4, yes, granted a lot of programs offer QT and you can use your existing QT account but use our referral code, bypass set up fees for a new account at ASP and u'll save on transaction fees in the long run. (wow i do sound like im plugging ASP...)

**Puma** · 27 July 2009, 10:03 pm

You could simply offer affiliates moneybookers since many affiliates who are Canadian like me can't use the ones provided by casino coins. Well we can use affiliate speed pay but at a cost. Casino coins has one of the worst selection of methods in which to pay their affiliates of most programs. Not only was it hard enough before but now you have gone and increased the amount of earnings required before we get paid. You have lots of money to revamp your casinos but can't pay us when we make $200 by check? Im not all that worried, I have not promoted your casino activley for months and when I saw most of my active players leave in the same month I decided to never promote them again. There are better programs that continue to make an effort to make their affiliates lives easy and casino coins is no longer one of them.

**mojo** · 27 July 2009, 10:15 pm

Looking at one of the casinos, looks like you can deposit using QT but can't withdraw with it. But I do see moneybookers Pum. Maybe they can pay your players account and then you can w/d?

https://www.silverdollar.com/banking/payouts.php

**Puma** · 28 July 2009, 1:46 am

Thats an idea but why should I have to? why can casino coins not provide moneybookers or eco to their affiliates. It reeks of laziness and cheapness.

**SabrinaCoins** · 28 July 2009, 9:20 am

Pumacat,

It is close to impossible to make EVERYBODY happy. We try out best to accommodate as many parties' needs as possible. ASP - seemed like the best solution among MB,QT,ECO etc. No more cheques - not a fiscal decision, banking instructions - maybe you know/have heard a thing or two about the industry and processing.

I'm sorry that Casino Coins is not the right match for you. I wish you all the best with Sam the Casino Man. I hope to hear about your super affiliate status one of these days.

Cheers!

**Puma** · 28 July 2009, 4:09 pm

maybe you know/have heard a thing or two about the industry and processing.

Sure have , and a number off programs still pay me by check , Moneybookers and eco card. Perhaps casino coins needs to be the ones to get an education on processing.

**Jinnia** · 8 August 2009, 12:23 am

I don't know about anyone else, but I received no notice of the payout
increase. I'm a very small time affiliate, so when a program increases the
payout, I'll get them removed, evidentially. $500 is to high for us smaller
affiliates.

ASP ? ... you have to be kidding!!

**universal4** · 8 August 2009, 10:04 am

Sabrina, could you possibly list all the payment methods available and their minimums?

This way affiliates can possibly see a method with a lower minimum that works for them.

Once I realized the $500 was going into effect, I changed my payment method based upon this discussion since I didn't know that ASP was a lower minimum and others may find another method works better for them also.

Rick
Universal4

**SabrinaCoins** · 10 August 2009, 12:39 pm

Hi Guys,

About notifying affiliates re: changes to our payment methods: we placed a note about it in our last newsletter and have had a pop-over upon login to your Casino Coins affiliate account for several weeks now.

We offer the following payment methods:
Wire (Minimum now $500)
Neteller (only available to non-US and non-Cdn affiliates, minimum is $50)
ASP (available to all, minimum is $50)

Please feel free to contact me directly if you would like our referral code to bypass ASP account set up fees or if you have any other questions.

Cheers!

Sabrina

**universal4** · 10 August 2009, 8:54 pm

That's it?

Honestly that isn't many choices.

Rick
Universal4

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